F*&! Joe Torre

Since Joe Torre breaks our hearts, this blog will break his balls. Every day of the season I will detail the errors, misjudgements, and omissions that make him the most overrated manger in the history of the game (even more than Tommy Lasorda!). But Joe Torre is not just one bum in hero's clothing (i.e. the pinstripes); he is the quintessential counterfeit of excellence, a figure who embodies the triumph of the ersatz that pervades every aspect of our culture. No organization in sport, nay in civilization generally, has manifested a committment to continuing greatness like the New York Yankees, a beacon to all, in every field of endeavor, that the best is always possible. How intolerable is it then that the Yankees should be managed by a mediocrity on stilts, a figure with a reputation for greatness without any of the attributes thereof. Beginning with Torre and ending with Torre, this blog will look to smash idols we create out of inadvertence, ignorance, and complacency.

Monday, September 24, 2007

WHERE ARE WE?

As the Yankees now seem assured of playing October ball and entering the playoffs as baseball's hottest team, I thought we might pause and look at the three problem areas this team has had for the past couple of years, to see if any improvement has been made.

Bullpen: JOBA, JOBA, JOBA. And frankly not much else. Vizcaino has been better the second half of the season, but Ramirez is unreliable at best, and really seems to have a weakness for the long ball. Farnsworth is so bad, I don't think they should even put him on the postseason roster. His is a uniquely flammable combination of ineffective wildness (he throws alot of 4 pitch walks) and grooved fastballs ripe for the hitting. I think Bruney and Britton are both better bets, and they are both pretty awful. Villone is adequate for a batter or two. Veras is either very good or dreadful--you know which right away; unfortunately Joe doesn't.

The real weakness in the bullpen is the starting pitching, which is either too old (Clemens), too contact averse (Mussina, Wang), or too wild (Hughes) to give the bullpen any kind of break. If the starters could consistently go 7-8, Joba, Vizcaino and Mo would make for a pretty awesome pen. But those other guys will have to pitch sometimes, and when they do we will probably lose. The relievers give even a good tactician a very narrow marign for error. Slow Joe can no more walk that line than Dumbo the Elephant can cross the big top on a suspended skein of dental floss.

Situational Hitting

There has been improvement here, both because of slight upticks in the performance of Damon and Matsui, a huge uptick in the performance of Mankiewitz and because Jason Giambi is one of the best pinchhitters in baseball right now. The last is not really that surprising: he was always willing to take alot of pitches, not fearing to wait for the one that would define his night, and that is a good mindset for a pinchhitter.If you combine this improvement with the implosion of Scot Shields, I think you actually have to give the Yankees a shot against the Angels this year.

Defense

Cabrera is the best defensive center fielder the Yankees have seen since Mickey Mantle, or at least Mickey Rivers. Mankiewicz has been hitting well enough to keep the first base job, which is a giant improvement over Giambi. Jeter's sliding back into the erratic play of the spring and Cano has regressed some at second, though he still turns a mean DP. Posada is not where he was last year in terms of nailing runners, but he's not too bad. Has had some butterfingers lately. We need Damon's coverage with Matsui's arm in left. Overall, you'd have to say this team is not going to win a WC with its defense, but it may have risen to a leveel of adequacy where it need not lose one either.


Torre

He still stinks.

I saw him interviewed yesterday and he was talking about how the season turned around when he started playing Melky. Hey Joe, that happened last year too, but you were too stupid to play him every day in April and May. If you had, the yankees would probably be up a game or two at this point instead of down two. Moreover, Torre's prejudice against youth continues and may well cost the Yankees the title. Quick, who on the available evidence is the best starter on this team. Right now it is probably Ian Kennedy. He's certainly no worse than 2, three at the outside. But Joe's misplaced sense of seniority is such that Kennedy's not even going to be in the rotation come the playoffs and probably slots in behind Hughes (whom he has outperformed) simply because he came up a few months later.
No Torre is still Torre. There's a difference between old school and old fool and he never learned it (which by the way is the definition of the latter).

6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It really is maddening--I read an interview with Joe where he was praising Melky to the skies, but then ended it by saying "The only thing he lacks is experience."

what the fuck? he's been playing close to full time for 2 seasons now. of course he still has a lot to leanr, but why would stating it in that way even occur to Torre at this point?

You're so right about Kennedy. I won't be surprised if Torre doesn't even put him on the postseason roster. "Well, Brunney, you know, he's got that experience..."

Ohledorf has looked pretty good to me so far. I think he came up too late to be on the post season roster, but he could have been an interesting wild card--maybe a safer bet than Ramirez who, after looking great for a few outings, really is looking like a long ball specialist.

ideal postseason rotation:
Pettitte
Kennedy
Wang
Clemens for 5 or 6 tops, with hughes first out the pen behind him.

10:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After reading Joe's comments about the weakness of the bullpen, I watch their sorry attempt to protect a 5-0 lead in Tampa. They cough up 6 runs to the Rays and the Yankees are now losing to a Triple-A team that Boston regularly pastes.

The pen is the weak link. If the starters don't go deep in the playoffs, the pen will falter as they have all year. Playoff games being close affairs, it does not give me much confidence for postseason success.

--MUNSON

9:02 PM  
Blogger joe valente said...

I have to disagree on 2 points. Actually the Red Sox always lose one game per series against the Rays. And the pen didn't lose this game: Joe Torre did. Igawa allowed only 2 hits in 5 innings and had only gone to 87 pitches when Torre removed him for no good reason. As a result, he couldn't go to his 7-8-9 contingent of Vizcaino, Joba and Mo. granted the bullpen is ridiculously thin after that. But Torre could have won this game and let everyone rest for the remainder of the season. They're not going to catch the Red Sox now anyway. He still hasn't gotten it into his head that Ramirez, Bruney, Farnsworth, Karstens all stink. If he had to go with another pitcher in the 6th, he should have tried Ohlendorf. But I still see no reason to pull Igawa. He gets through one more inning and you bring in the real relievers and a five run lead is safe.

All of that said, I agree the bullpen makes for a bad look out for the post season. With any vewrsion of the Joba rules in place, Torre will have to go to his weak relievers. The only hope is that he goes with starters in the middle roles, Mussina, Hughes, and Kennedy. Any 2 of those 3. Remember Joba is a starter, so why can;t Hughes and Kennedy be relievers.

10:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is hard to get too excited about the postseason when you consider that Wang isn't himself, and might not be able of going more than 6 even if he is, which significantly increases the chances of farnsworth entering a game; Clemens might not be able to walk to the mound; and Mussina is capable of imploding in 2.2 seconds...then the bullpen and erratic offense...

BUT: I'm going to enjoy last night's game and the celebration after simply because the way it was covered, both by the yankee owned media (YES network) and the regular media. Both did so much to emphasize the "youth" element of the team as what really got them there; i can't help but think that is going to carry over to the post-playoffs musing about next year. for once, when they crap out of the playoffs in the first round, the answer will be, not: we need more retirment age high priced veterans in decline--but we need more cheap kids full of enthusiasm who believe anything is possible precisely because they don't have 15 years experience to tell them otherwise.

08 rotation:
bring back Andy, then
Wang, Joba, Kennedy, Hughes.

Ohlendorf replaces Joba in the pen, and get a healthy Sanchez in there as well.

Obviously dump farnsowrth, Brunney; keep faith in ramirez and give villone one more shot.

dump Giambi and Mussina as well. bring back Molina, and make sure there's at least one kid who can fly as a bench player. damon is full time LF, Matsui full time DH.

assuming a-rod and abreu return, that leaves only a first basemen as a real need. go after a mark loretta type of versatile hitter who can field well enough; or is eric duncan the answer? maybe keep betemit on the bench.

when they re-sign Jorge, they need to have a plan that he'll phase into a full time DH over the next 2 seasons.

and most importantly, hand the reins over to last year's NL manager of the year.

3:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe V. - Congratulations on the Phillies' comeback to make the playoffs. I did not think they had a chance.

So now for the question: If the Philly and NY make the Series, who do you root for? Or does it matter since one of your teams will be the World Champions?

--MUNSON

6:47 PM  
Blogger joe valente said...

I am a big Phillies fan and I love this edition in particular. How can you not love Rollins, Utley, Rowlands and Howard. How can you not love the way they won this division, by simply never giving up. They proved the one thing you need more than pitching, of which they have none, is heart, of which the Mets have none. But make no mistake. I never root for *anyone* but the Yankees when they are playing. I went to Citizens Bank last year when the Yankees came to town and got into shouting matches with Phillies fans. I'd root for the Yankees if I was playing on the other team. But the real test for how rabid you are is whether you would root for a team if Hitler was pitching for them. Well I'd even root for the Yankees if Schilling was pitching for them, and that's worse.

12:39 AM  

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